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Power consumption

Posted: 16 Apr 2007, 17:28
by hotep
The manual says that Bubba uses less than 10 watts when active and less than 2 watts when idle. But doesn't a hard drive use more than 2 watts when idle? Or does Bubba spin down the hard drive?

Posted: 18 Apr 2007, 13:49
by hotep
My couple of minutes of research (google) suggests that a hard drive uses about 8 watts when idle and about 12 watts when seeking.

My guess is that the power usage quoted by excito (< 2watts idle, < 10 active) does not include the hard drive and maybe not even the power supply.

So my back of the envelope calculation is that the Bubba uses (10 + 12)/0.8 = 40 watts when active. Hmm...that doesn't look right.

Has anyone measured the power usage of their Bubba?

Posted: 18 Apr 2007, 13:51
by hotep
Sorry.

(10+12)/0.8 = 27.5 watts.

That looks more reasonable.

Posted: 18 Apr 2007, 15:24
by Clive
I briefly hooked up my multimeter to my Bubba when I first got it and measured the current into the back of the box. At that point it measured 13.7watts though this was only a snapshot five minutes after powering it up.

Excito can give you more information but the power supply is rated at output @12volts, 2500ma and it just gets just a little warm, certainly not drawing the full power that it could. Your comment that the HD could draw 8 watts when idle + whatever the passive motherboard takes (1-2 watts) sounds reasonable.

Posted: 19 Apr 2007, 02:16
by johannes
Hi all!

Your assumptions are fairly correct, just to clear out:

The 2W stated in the manual is wrong, thanks for notifying me on that, I'll remove it ASAP. That's an old figure based on the fact that we would spin down the disk when idle. However, for varous reasons (life time, noise etc., I can explain this too if anyone wants) we decided not to spin down the disk.

The disk, when operating, draws according to specs between 4W (80 GB) and 9W (750 GB), and those numbers seem correct when I measure. To this will add Bubbas own consumption, that is something just below 1W. When seeking, the disk consumption raises a little bit, totalling in around 11W, however, a "typical user mean consumption" would be around 10W, of course depending on what the user does.

Note that anything plugged in the USB host connector isn't included here, the USB specs allow for another 2,5W here. Connecing a powered USB accessory here isn't considered a normal use case, so it isn't included in the 10W, but the power supply can handle it of course.

Also, regarding the high specs on the power supply, that's mainly to handle the disks spin-up current, that can be up to 2.8A (750 GB) for a few seconds.

Posted: 19 Apr 2007, 10:20
by hotep
Thanks for clearing that up. I guess the same issue applies to the 0 dB when idle.

Posted: 19 Apr 2007, 16:39
by johannes
Yes, you are correct. The manual is fixed now, thanks again!

Measured power consumption

Posted: 01 Jul 2007, 10:16
by PeterTuson
Hi All,

I have measured the power consumption of my bubba. I have a 350GB disk and have added a USB-Serial Converter to the USB port.

I have then measured the power consumption as 8W (at the plug) in idle mode. This was with no-one accessing the bubba and admin browsing the bubba.

Browsing files and moving graphiics around didn't appear to make any difference.

Can bubba be configured to use less power?

Posted: 01 Jul 2007, 17:59
by johannes
8W sounds completely normal with your configuration. The only option to use even less power is to spin down the disk. If doing that I guess you should be down to something like 1-2 W of power.

I don't know how that is done best, but be aware that the disk may be worn out if you spin up and down the disk too much.

Power Consumption when off

Posted: 04 Jul 2007, 12:54
by PeterTuson
When I turned the bubba off, the power consumption of the power supply was 2W at the main plug.

Posted: 04 Jul 2007, 13:48
by johannes
Yes, sounds correct. Turning it off is the same case as spinning down the disk.